Curse

**Marty Silverblade** · Jul 16, 2008, 09:14 AM // 09:14

You still have Endure Pain and Healing Breeze on your bar. They still suck. Drop them. [[Hundred Blades] perhaps. [[FGJ] definately. You won't need 5 attacks, so swap Galrath and Hundred Blades for Frenzy and Rush.

[Hundred Blades][Sever Artery][Gash][Final Thrust][Frenzy][Rush][FGJ][Resurrection Signet]

HB should pump up your adr with FGJ up - 4 adr per creature hit.

A Leprechaun · Jul 16, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

You still have Endure Pain and Healing Breeze on your bar. They still suck. Drop them. [[Hundred Blades] perhaps. [[FGJ] definately. You won't need 5 attacks, so swap Galrath and Hundred Blades for Frenzy and Rush.

[Hundred Blades][Sever Artery][Gash][Final Thrust][Frenzy][Rush][FGJ][Resurrection Signet]

HB should pump up your adr with FGJ up - 4 adr per creature hit.

Agreed although personally I wouldn't run frenzy/rush. But then again he hasn't many IAS options so...meh.

~A Leprechuan~

Age · Jul 16, 2008, 10:44 AM // 10:44

I think he is looking more for pve build could try some energy skills vs non fleshies just use zealouse sword or take bonetti's.This is so you regain energy back.

Tyla · Jul 16, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44

To be honest, Savage Slash or some other utility would be better for the build instead of FGJ in my opinion. Even if you've got HB making you adrenaline flinch.

Drizzitdude · Jul 16, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11

ok the new version is complete not much different but still

[for great justice][sever artery][gash][galrath slash][final thrust][endure pain][healing breeze][rebirth]

NOTES:galrath slash is great whe it comes down to putting the smack down on enemies that arent affected by sever artery. And like i said before i have few elite skills. and by few i mean one [warriors endurance]. once i get hundred blades i will be sure to use it.

Healing breeze is the shit for when u have a busy monk that has to focus on others as well as you. also I find tactics skills pointless in PvE. Sure they help but most people dont even notice the difference unless they are in deep. Also healing sig takes time to cast as where healing breeze takes place almost instantaneously. How gain u really so no to using a spell that regains 6 health every 3/4 of a second for 15 seconds and starts as soon as u press the button?(well the char does a little arm motion before it takes effect but that lasts like half a sec).

THIS IS A PVE BUILD!

RavagerOfDreams · Jul 16, 2008, 04:25 PM // 16:25

mmkay

Guildwars is a team game. And in each team each person has a specific task they must carry out for that team. As a warrior your job is to deal RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing loads of damage on the enemy team. As such your monks job is to prevent you from dying and most of the time heroes and henchies are very effective at doing this. So you don't need skills such as healing breeze or endure pain as thats not the goal of your profession. Your goal is to kill stuff...lots of stuff and so healing skills like those only cramp your skill bar and make reaching your goal fairly difficult. I would reccomend trying to take one of the bars that marty has suggested for you to use as they are decent builds for a warrior, who wants to use a sword, in prophecies. I would also highly recommend reading the warrior guide which is at the top of the warrior section.

Drizzitdude · Jul 16, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

I dont consider healing breeze cramping my bar. I have used it since the freaking pre and it has always been a valued asset to my skill bar. I like knowing I have a backup in case my monk dies or is busy. [Endure pain] just helps me in case of emergencies to kill for longer and now I only use it when i am near death. I am thinking of replacing endure pain with sumthing else(ver likely it will be [hundred blades] WHEN get it), but [healing breeze] stays. I dont want any more people telling to ditch it( i appreciate the help though), it may be stupid but i am stubborn like that

. Any reccomendations of what i am going to replace [endure pain] with (besides [hundred blades] i already said i would most likely use it.) are welcome.

Crom The Pale · Jul 16, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

I dont consider healing breeze cramping my bar. I have used it since the freaking pre and it has always been a valued asset to my skill bar. I like knowing I have a backup in case my monk dies or is busy. [Endure pain] just helps me in case of emergencies to kill for longer and now I only use it when i am near death. I am thinking of replacing endure pain with sumthing else(ver likely it will be [hundred blades] WHEN get it), but [healing breeze] stays. I dont want any more people telling to ditch it, it may be stupid but i am stubborn like that

. Any reccomendations of what i am going to replace [endure pain] with however are welcome.

If your set on using skills that we tell your are not the best, then I'm not certain what help we can really be to you.

Before you discount what we are telling you maybe you should perform some tests to get a better understanding of WHY a certain skill is bad.

For example go into a low area and allow yourself to take 150 pionts of dmg.
Now use [Healing Signet] with 10+ points in it and see how fast your reach maximum health.

Now repeat using [Healing Breeze] with the same amount of Attribute points you used in Tactics. Time just how long it takes you to get back to full HP and how much energy it costs you.

I know you like the idea of being able to help heal your party members, but its more usefull for them if your killing the monsters that are damaging them rather than trying to heal that damage.

As for Endure pain, given how you like to play I would sugest you might like [defy pain] though its not a very good elite its one you would like.

Lastly you really need an IAS, even [flurry] would increase the rate of adren gain substantially allowing you to fire off your attack skills more often.

Rakim B · Jul 16, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

[build prof=W/R name="Proph Only Plz" desc="" strength=16, marksmanship=12][Read the Wind][Warrior's endurance][Savage Shot][distracting shot][Hunter's Shot][Power Shot][resurrection signet][/build]

Superior Rune means more Pew Pew

Cebe · Jul 16, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Rakim B

[build prof=W/R name="Proph Only Plz" desc="" strength=16, marksmanship=12][Read the Wind][Warrior's endurance][Savage Shot][distracting shot][Hunter's Shot][Power Shot][resurrection signet][/build]

Superior Rune means more Pew Pew

Warrior's Endurance only pays back energy if you hit with a melee attack.

Rakim B · Jul 16, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

You have stomped all over my dreams

Age · Jul 16, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

I dont consider healing breeze cramping my bar. I have used it since the freaking pre and it has always been a valued asset to my skill bar. I like knowing I have a backup in case my monk dies or is busy. [Endure pain] just helps me in case of emergencies to kill for longer and now I only use it when i am near death. I am thinking of replacing endure pain with sumthing else(ver likely it will be [hundred blades] WHEN get it), but [healing breeze] stays. I dont want any more people telling to ditch it( i appreciate the help though), it may be stupid but i am stubborn like that

. Any reccomendations of what i am going to replace [endure pain] with (besides [hundred blades] i already said i would most likely use it.) are welcome.

You don't get healing breeze in pre only after you ascend and change back to/Mo or if you buy it in post.You might want to consider somthing like this

[power attack][bulls strike][100 blades][heal signet][bonetti's defence][sprint][mend ailment][rebirth] or [resserection signet] or [frenzy] in place of [mend ailment] just learn to cancel with [sprint].

Strenght 12
Sword 8
Tactics 9 or 10
Protection 4

Drizzitdude · Jul 17, 2008, 08:03 AM // 08:03

yes u do. It is like one of the first spells you get. Along with[symbol of wrath]. If if I am wrong and u do not get it in pre you get it in ascalon not after ascension. I have Used this spell for freaking ever. It was what I replaced [healing signet] with in ascalon. I would use healing sig it is just the fact that it should be at rank 9 or 10 to do some worthwhile healing and that would take away from my other attributes. I do like the idea behind bulls strike but it only works on enemies while they are moving, and they dont tend to move much when I am in their way. BTW you might wanna do a quick spell check there age. Also the thing with your build age(it oks) is that it takes away from my swordmanship and I dont like the thought losing attack power for a couple of spells I dont need and tactics.

BTW guys thx for the suggestion like I mentioned before since i am fighting more flesh bound enemies instead of jade armors all the time I have brought back [Gash] to my skill bar. I am also going to replace [rebirth] with [Resurrect] because i dont like losing all my energy for a spell that disables my allies skills so they can just get wasted again as soon as they r rezzed. The only up side to it is that it teleports your ally to you but since i am a warrior and wil probly be in the middle fray to start with that wont help them much :P

Crom thank you for suggesting [defy pain]. It is actually a skill i have wanted for a while but like I said before the only elite i currently have is [warriors endurance] also the only downside is that it wastes some andrenaline instead of being able to be instantly used at the cost of some energy. BTW just to prove the [endure pain] is not entirely useless I would like you guys to know that when the rest of my group died in the mission to protect king jarlishammer, I had like 50 health left and used endure pain to finish off the last mursaat rez my monk and save the dude. So ya baically all it is doing is delaying the envitable, but sometimes all u need is time and that sure as hell gives it to you.

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Originally Posted by Rakim B

You have stomped all over my dreams

lol have u actually been been using that

read the skills more carefully my friend. (coming from the dude who epically failed at his build)

Cebe · Jul 17, 2008, 08:18 AM // 08:18

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

BTW you might wanna do a quick spell chack there age.

I see what you did there.

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

BTW guys thx for the suggestion like I mentioned before since i am fighting more flesh bound enemies instead of jade armors all the time I have brought back [Gash] to my skill bar.

AXES can cause Deep Wound without the need for Bleeding

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

I am also going to replace [rebirth] with [Resurrect] because i dont like losing all my energy for a spell that disables my allies skills so they can just get wasted again as soon as they r rezzed.

Ugh. No. Resurrect is so so bad. It's as basic as it's possible to get. If you really don't like Rebirth and you insist on speccing into Healing Prayers for your precious Healing Breeze then perhaps try [[Restore Life]? ANYTHING but Resurrect, please!

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

The only up side to it is that it teleports your ally to you but since i am a warrior and wil probly be in the middle fray to start with that wont help them much :P

Because you're a Warrior, you can leg it when your party starts to die. You have the armour to get out of the battle quickly, and then you can Rebirth everyone to safety...

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

Crom thank you for suggesting [defy pain]. It is actually a skill i have wanted for a while but like I said before the only elite i currently have is [warriors endurance] also the only downside is that it wastes some andrenaline instead of being able to be instantly used at the cost of some energy.

Just to emphasize...

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

As for Endure pain, given how you like to play I would sugest you might like [defy pain] though its not a very good elite its one you would like.

Drizzitdude · Jul 17, 2008, 08:22 AM // 08:22

So is this the final verdict then?

[for great justice][sever artery][gash][galrath slash][hundred blades][final thrust][healing breeze][restore life]

Notes: I guess i will do restore life again. i used to always have it in my skill bar. Its a great spell it just isnt great for emergencies because u have to get close and it takes a while to cast.

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

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Because[/B] you're a Warrior, you can leg it when your party starts to die. You have the armour to get out of the battle quickly, and then you can Rebirth everyone to safety...

Just to emphasize...

LOL i was wondering if anyone would mention that...I just dont like how rebirth takes all the energy away. It is a great spell I admit I dont know what i was thinking putting ressurect and restore life in there. I guess I didnt like the thought of losing all my energy but then again most of mioves rely on adrenaline so why would O need the energy?

(thanks for all the advie so far guys it has helped my build alot)

Cebe · Jul 17, 2008, 08:29 AM // 08:29

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

Notes: I guess i will do restore life again. i used to always have it in my skill bar. Its a great spell it just isnt great for emergencies because u have to get close and it takes a while to cast.

It takes 1 second less to cast than Resurrect or Rebirth, plus you've already said as a Warrior you're in the thick of it all anyway...you're as close to the foes as you're ever going to get!

Both Rebirth and Restore Life have their plus points...and both of them are better than Resurrect.

P.S. Stop double-posting please.

Drizzitdude · Jul 17, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30

OK OK THE NEW FINAL VERDICT.

[for great justice][sever artery][gash][galrath slash][hundred blades][final thrust][healing breeze][rebirth] may replace [rebirth] with [restore life]

BTW I just captured hundred blades (thx for the tips)

ARG!!!! I hate this by the time i get my next message in you already reply and then i look like i am contradicting myself. Screw it i will just use both and find out which i prefer because they both have their ups and down that sound good ?

i still need an IAS though. But i guess i bear without. I srsly need healing breeze because half the time i can never find a monk and the other half of the time they r smiters not healers. So i have to deal with alesia (or in my case right now mehnlo) so getting rid of my self heal isnt an option.

PS to any who come in and tell me to get a hero (there will be one eventually, you know it and so do I) You must not grasp that in prophicies we dont get them and i weep for thaqt :'( CRYING SAD FACE

-_- blarg........

JDRyder · Jul 17, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10

I h8 to be the a** but as some1 that has played monk for a few years, Healing breeze sucks and you dont need, its not even useful. Why did you even come here and ask if your not going to listen to people, some of whom are the best players in the game and have played the game a lot longer then you have.

The henchman heal fine, maybe its just you, and they may have just been boon smiting something that is good for healing.

[build=OQASEZKH91vAuoCQrd9q] imo

Age · Jul 17, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

yes u do. It is like one of the first spells you get. Along with[symbol of wrath]. If if I am wrong and u do not get it in pre you get it in ascalon not after ascension.

No you don't not as secondary profession only Monk primaries get healing breeze no others do as /Mo unless they changed it as my Warrior started off as W/Mo.I didn't get healing breeze even as a Monk I didn't use it that long only around Ascalon then replaced it at Yakes Bend.

A Leprechaun · Jul 17, 2008, 11:17 AM // 11:17

If you are worried about dying then why not spec into tactics and use [Watch yourself] and [heal sig] they will serve you much better than Endure Pain and Healing Breeze ever did.
You don't really need 5 attacks on one bar, its a waste, 4 is the most you will generally need.
An IAS will greatly benefit your build, try using [flurry], it only reduces the damage of your base attacks (I think :S) and will not effect the damage of your attack skills where most of your killing should come from. You can try to use Frenzy and Rush but for a .....less experianced.... warrior I wouldn't suggest it (I don't use it much personally, but then I have better options).

As res skills go I find that [res sig] does me fine, your party should not be dying too much, if you want a re-usable res then Restore life is your best bet (imo) rebirth is only for very hard areas where you suspect your party may wipe.

[hundred [email protected]][sever [email protected]][[email protected]][galrath [email protected]][flurry][watch [email protected]][healing [email protected]][res sig]

You can replace galrath with Final Thrust if you like

~A Leprechaun~